[Anonymous Player]

Anonymous Player #25182

Slavs have received significant buffs with the latest PUP update.

They now get Supplies and Gambeson tech for free, which allows for a Longswordman, Siege, and Monk play in the mid-game on open maps.

In addition, Boyars are cheaper in gold cost, making them a viable substitute for Paladins in team games or 1v1s.

Furthermore, the Druzhina tech is 300 food cheaper, making Slavs more appealing to play.

These changes have created a new trend in Slavs gameplay, where players can focus on using Longswordmen supported by siege and monks to counter enemy knights and crossbowmen.

What do you think of Slavs’ new buff?

Let’s discuss and share our thoughts.

Thank you.

[Azot-Spike]

Azot-Spike #25183

Right.

The infantry flavor is now achieved before Druzhina, which is also more affordable.

I missed a Monk bonus but they have gone for the Boyar way.

My only little worry is them looking too much like Bulgarians (biggest difference is that Bulgarians have serviceable CA, while Slavs have better Monks)

[vesnoimorskoi]

vesnoimorskoi #25184

I like how everyone keep saying Slavs are fine yet nobody ever plays them

[albatross_rex]

albatross_rex #25185

Slavs were never boring, but they could’ve been better.

This is a step in the right direction for sure.

[L_Freethought]

L_Freethought #25186

Honestly i think they are getting massivly powercrept by the dravidians.

I wanted to make a post about this comparing their discounts and eco boni until castle age, but i lack the energy to do so whatever.

Dravidians also get bloodlines now, but slavs still lack good skirms so i dont know if the light cav is really that bad with wootz steel in mind in lategame trash fights.

Dravidians also get really good skirms too lol.

Idk it really feels to me like you are just better off playing dravidians and getting the same kinda infantry playstyle with the same powerspikes and have a better flow in general, atleast until castle age.

I also prefer archers with infantry over cavalry with infantry but thats just me.

[29Rogans]

29Rogans #25187

Well, it makes them stronger, but they still are boring

[Koala_eiO]

Koala_eiO #25188

I think it’s great.

If you want to play something else than infantry in castle age, the transition to Druzhina champions in imperial age is now cheaper and much faster which is quite important.

[Neilug_Hyuga]

Neilug_Hyuga #25189

It does make them stronger.

Before this buff I was hoping they would have access to two handed swordsman in castle age, to bring something unique to them.

Now I wonder if it would be too much

[eekbarbaderkle]

eekbarbaderkle #25190

Anyone who has thought Slavs are boring isn’t researching Detinets enough.

[M-dizzle18]

M-dizzle18 #25191

Yes the voice lines get me going!

LOL Slavs are my Fav CIV, and after this update I will grow ~100 ELO np

Fighting the Slavs you will have to build a counter early.

The difficulties I have with Slavs are all being addressed.

Boyar cost is huge and after giving me Gambeson for free I will be at your TC with Arson Infantry immediately after getting castle.

[Aggravating-Skill-26]

Aggravating-Skill-26 #25192

They will be complete with SL!

[scarvet]

scarvet #25193

So they are the same, just slightly better to open with M@A

[VelcomeToCinder]

VelcomeToCinder #25194

They always had free supplies, the only change that is unique to Slavs is that they just get gambison for free (I assume in Castle Age).

An upgrade that will be rather common and is just +1 pierce armor.

Far cry from something like Malian pierce armor bonus.

Still nothing that would make me pick Slav specifically that I can’t do with numerous other civs, if I’m not going random for some reason.

Also I must make a clarification: Boring does not mean weak.

It’s not a synonym for underpowered.

[JPence14]

JPence14 #25195

Since I’m out of the loop, what is gambeson tech?

Thanks.

[IncrediblehumanPOS]

IncrediblehumanPOS #25196

Can someone explain this update to me?

I play on console and haven’t seen this update yet.

Is it only for PC right now?