Key Point: Bonus Damage is Unaffected by Ordinary Armor but Diminished by Bonus Damage Reduction

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    I had a tough experience that taught me a valuable lesson – Boyars are easily defeated by behemoths.

    #21559
    Denikin_Tsar
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    How are Boyars shredded by berserks?

    Some nerd stuff incoming:

    If we assume FU units on both sides,

    Berserks do 18 + 5 = 23 damage.

    This gets reduced by 11 MA of boyars for a total of 12 damage per hit.

    Meanwhile, Boyars do 18 damage which gets reduced to 13 by 5 MA.

    Berserks have 74 hp but regen helps a tiny bit.

    Boyars have 150 hp and slightly faster attack speed.

    Taking everything into account, An elite boyar will win 1v1 with 52% hp left.

    On a total resource basis, (gold + wood + food), the boyar has 21% efficiency

    If you just consider gold, then the berserk wins by 9% which makes them a tiny bit more efficient gold wise.

    However, this is 1 vs 1.

    If we are talking about late game were dozens of units are fighting, a group of boyars will wipe out a group of berserks, quite easily.

    If we use 3000 total resources for each group, we end up with 33 berserks and 23 Boyars

    They Boyars will win this fight with about 6-7 remaining, which is about 30% total resource efficiency.

    In terms of gold cost lost, the fight is about even.

    So yes berserks can take fights vs boyars gold efficiently, however, they will lose.

    #21560
    Comprehensive-Sort92
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    Chieftains is the vikings great equalizer

    #21561
    Koala_eiO
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    Against Vikings you will want to go Druzhina infantry + onagers.

    #21562
    ad3z10
    Guest

    Bonus vs regular damage doesn’t make a difference here as even unupgraded Castle Age Berserks do 12 damage to FU Elite Boyar’s 11 armour.

    The +5 from Chieftains would do exactly the same here whether it was base damage or bonus.

    In fact, it’s one of the few cases of bonus damage being a penalty as it means they get no bonus vs Cata or Siege Elephants and no mounted unit can reach more than 11 armour.

    #21563
    rbnbadri
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    Be careful next time.

    Use them only against units that do not do bonus damage against Cavalry, like Elite Samurai or Elite Leitis.

    #21564
    Loxodontox
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    That’s right!

    Never fight a Berzerks as a heavily armored cavalry unit if they have chieftains lmao

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