Is the extreme AI always this bad?

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September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46840
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[Because of the server maintenance multiplayer is disabled, and I decided to try a game vs.
the extreme AI.
It tried to blindly go FC despite the pressure, and it barely made two feudal archers \(as Turk\) against an army of fully upgraded British crossbows, and mangonels.
I can’t even imagine what the lower-level AI does. \(I am only around 1k elo\)](https://preview.redd.it/x2f1on95bhpb1.png?width=1324&format=png&auto=webp&s=c3e50fe5127d43c5d94c8afe60f011869ebaf05a)
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46855robsal6969
GuestI got drushed with 3 militia on Arabia at around 8 mins (in game timer) I think ai variability is a factor to consider as well
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46869wise___turtle
GuestWhat map did you play? 1v1 or team game?
Extreme AI is usually better than this and probably bugged out.
The way to ‘cheese’ it is by tower rushing or early scout or archer rush, but even then it reacts better than what we see here.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46868temudschinn
GuestMight be just bad luck, but i recently found the extreme ai bugging out.
When i harrassed with archers, he did not puch away my army despite having twice as many archers.
He just sat them at his tc and let me kill his eco…
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46867ZoidDev
GuestI cant beat the medium bots lol
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46866Andromeda_M89
GuestTry Death Match against the AI, it is tough
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46865OdinOmega
GuestWhenever I go straight archers against the extreme AI, it creates tons of skirmishers.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46864r13z
GuestExtreme AI really got a lot worse in latest patches.
They really can’t handle non-standard maps (worse than before).
If you can cheese them off a woodline or gold, their villagers will keep running back to the TC and to the woodline constantly, causing insane idle time.
It’s indeed about finding the sweet spot between letter them boom but not letting them boom too much (I play team games VS AI + handicap and when the AI gets the trade going, it can get pretty tense lol).
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46863Firzen69
GuestWell you played against Turks – the weakest civilization in early game.
Try it again with some.other civs.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46862JeanneHemard
GuestWhat map are you on?
On arabia, I find the AI usually makes a lot of army in feudal actually.
I would even say an over investment a lot of the time.
On arena, they simply don’t make any army at all until castle age.
All thus is civ and map dependant.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46861cloudfire1337
Guest> It tried to blindly go FC despite the pressure, and it barely made two feudal archers (as Turk
Probably a civ-specific strategy, also maybe map-specific.
On arabia it usually trains a lot of military units in feudal, especially archers and skirmishers.
It often over-commits and creates a huge army while you are on your way to castle age already.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46860medievalrevival
GuestIt’s pretty decent late game on Arena.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #468590ToTheLeft
Guestthe IA it’s not very good a 1v1, specially early ages.
But on imp the spam it’s insane, try unbalanced matches (1vs2 o 2vs3) and if you dont kill them before imp, then it’s an uphill battle.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46858Mordon327
GuestThe ai does well on certain maps and civs.
Even then the ai has a few personality types.
Sometimes it booms, sometimes it does tons of early game pressure.
I find that the ai does well with simple civs like franks on Arabia.
But if you put it on a hybrid map it sucks pretty bad.
The ai can also be pretty predictable so it’s good to practice against if your elo is below 1100.
Otherwise it’s probably not worth your time unless you’re practicing with a new or strange strat.
September 23, 2023 at 11:00 pm #46857CaptainMoonunitsxPry
GuestThey do better with some civs more than others.
Usually civs with good early/automatic bonuses.
Turks kinda don’t have much other than scout cav in fuedal and the AI’s not smart enough to go, oh shit I needa age up asap.
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