How to be aggressive against Korean defensive towers

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    I play with this guy who plays Koreans and predictably drops defensive towers for all his resources right after Feudal.

    He always double towers so I cant attack his towers directly either.

    I end up wasting time trying to disturb his economy with no avail and he ends up surviving into late game.

    How could I push him?

    I’ve tried MAA rush but they get easily killed under tower fire.

    Archers are not very useful since they’re either out of range or take way too much damage and he can counter easily with skirms.

    Scout rush similar problems.

    Also tried counter-towering to deny resources – found some success but takes a lot of micro (with forward vils and to fix the towers).

    Plus need some luck to go undetected until I build the 2 towers or he can just rush my forward vils with his entire pop and it backfires.

    Should I just fast castle and try to siege him down?

    Or is there some unit comp or upgrade I’m overlooking?

    #47159
    Plotius
    Guest

    Take the others advice with going to castle and making a forward siege then rams.

    But I think it would be funny to Persian douche your friend.

    As in pick Persian and build a new tc on his

    #47174
    Pociaga
    Guest

    Don’t over rush then.

    If you have army already before he brings in tower use that army but don’t spend on that anymore.

    His eco will definitely be weaker if he spend resources on towers.

    Just out boom him.

    #47173
    goddangol
    Guest

    Don’t attack and use mangonels with a repair villager at the start of castle age.

    You should be reaching castle age first if he is using resources on towers/stone.

    #47172
    Schierke7
    Guest

    I would go FC into boom and ignore him.

    Make sure he doesn’t sneak towers behind your woodline when he notices that you don’t pressure him.

    If you wanna be aggressive you can go drush into FC and try to wall his stone with fwd vill to be cute

    #47171
    temudschinn
    Guest

    Every tower is about 200 res.

    If he builds 2 towers per res, thats 6 or 8 towers, or 1.2-1.6k res.

    Castle age is 1k res.

    So with all the res he has wasted, you can just go castle age and kill him.

    Or go castle age and 3 tc boom, if you’d like the safer approach.

    #47170
    damnimadeanaccount
    Guest

    He basically builds immobile military at his base.

    Boring answer is FC and boom away, then either do a really strong castle attack or go straight imp.

    More fun ideas would be:

    – FI with turks, BBC + hand cannons

    – FC with goths, castle -> huskarls

    – mongols pop ~15 tower rush (get his stone) or a bit later one with teutons (10 vills forward)

    – FC + extreme castle pushing

    – cumans, either straight 2 TC feudal boom or try to make their feudal rams work

    #47169
    taylormadevideos
    Guest

    If he’s dropping all those towers, that means his eco must be hurting.

    You can probably just FC, then hit him with a castle age army.

    Or even Fast Imp.

    He’s giving you a gift or being able to naked FC or Fast Imp on open maps.

    You’ll be faster to relics, faster to get siege units to take down his towers.

    Or Knights to just raid, and kill his towers (they won’t have murder holes).

    #47168
    esjb11
    Guest

    Just ignore and have a way better boom.

    He commits so much ress to towers.

    #47167
    Fridgeroo1
    Guest

    “Scout rush similar problems”!?!?!

    What on earth are you talking about?

    Scouts literally dodge arrow fire from Feudal towers.

    If you’re on 4 scouts versus only towers in defence you should be on a killing spree.

    Furthermore, you will be able to hit castle age much faster than the opponent if they’re mining stone.

    If they’ve build 3 towers in defence and you make 4 scouts and then up to Castle Age on 35 pop (17 food 5 gold 9 wood 4 scouts) you could be up 4/5 minutes ahead of the opponent and have more kills than them.

    It’s a dream scenario.

    It’s literally best case scenario.

    Make scouts!

    #47166
    Are_y0u
    Guest

    Wall and boom.

    Go fast castle into 3 TCs.

    He just spent a lot of villager time to get those towers, so you will autboom him so hard he is forced to attack you.

    Try to grab the relics while you are booming.

    Work on making a huge ball of units (together with Siege).

    If you are able to grab some relics, have some defensive forces and he is still just towering up, go imp to get access to Trebs/BBC.

    Make sure to abuse your timing windows.

    When you reach imp, get the important upgrades and attack him at the moment those are about to be researched.

    #47165
    KapotAgain
    Guest

    Sounds like a big investment from his part yes

    #47164
    brambedkar59
    Guest

    Make 2-3 dark age Militia to harass his eco just before he reaches fuedal age.

    Them leave him alone until u reach castle age and boom.

    #47163
    killer121l
    Guest

    If they have a larger army and better eco while towering like that, you got outplayed

    #47162
    Sufficient_Tradition
    Guest

    Just click up to Castle Age and boom after the initial MAA rush, 3 scouts, or a couple archers.

    You can even naked FC boom to troll him if he only defends.

    If you insist on aggression, dive on his vils with knights with +2 armor.

    Don’t do siege before Imp, you will get rekt by free Guard Tower.

    I suspect your opponent might just be better.

    With proper execution, your MAA should hit before the towers are up.

    A few scouts or archers should be able to harass him.

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