away Frank Must Lose an Ability

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  • #8810

    You cannot simply give a civilization the most powerful Paladin, the least expensive castle, and a free upgrade to their farm.

    #8811
    BloodyDay33
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    If there is a place where Franks are truly too strong are TGs, especially open maps, people don’t talk about it because the existence of Gurjaras and Hindustani.

    But in 1v1 Franks are far from being a problem due to the large amount of maps that can do bad and civs that struggle to face.

    They need a nerf for TGs specifically.

    #8812
    MicrosoftComputerMan
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    just wait till you hear about the teutons

    #8813
    Blocklies
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    Their paladins only have 12 extra hp bro, cavalier gets 4 extra, I’m pretty sure Lithuanians with 3 relics and teutons extra armor is much better.

    Plus paladin costs an absurd amount.

    Anyways franks have a terrible late game because they’re forced into paladins or a double gold comp, if you don’t die in castle age (pikes are good for this) then you can just destroy them before they research paladin.

    #8814
    flightlessbirdi
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    Aoc Franks had all the things you mention and were still terrible, so I don’t see why its wrong for a civ to have these things.

    #8815
    Error_Great
    Guest

    just wait till you hear about the berry bonus

    #8816
    _Haran_
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    Franks have above avarage palladins, but far from most OP

    #8817
    Hungry_kereru
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    Even just remove the cheap castles like why is that even a thing, make them send 5 to stone like everyone else

    #8818
    MarionberryCool7176
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    Same issue with Burgundians, Poles and Sicilians.

    Painfully designed civs with the same boring nerrative of boom into Knights.

    The textbook of AOE II.

    We knew Franks are both OP (relatively to the old civ, back then) and a boring design that ecourages no strategy, yet they chose to design new civs with the same pattern.

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