Why Don’t Malians Receive Braces?
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February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14060Anonymous PlayerMember
Would Bracer be too powerful for them?
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14068adquenGuestProbably not too strong, but right now they are in an interesting spot where you have lots of powerful mid game options, but most of them do not easily scale into Imp.
Which gives the civ an interesting dynamic most people like.
Bracer would just give them the whole Arb powerspike and a reliable archer option for late game, which in my opinion makes the civ less interesting.
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That being said, I still think the gold mine change was a nerf the civ did not deserve and their mid game power spike was more impressive with faster gold mining than longer lasting gold mines and the fact their camels have been power-crept so hard by the new Indian civs makes playing them really underwhelming right now.
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14076TechChariotGuestbecause the civ is designed around the pierce armor buffs to their infantry.
They want you to counter halbs with champions or halb of your own
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #1407595BricksGuestI think they would be really strong all around civs that would counter all if they had bracer?
They would have top tier units across the board
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14074HyunAOPGuestIt’s part of their civ identity and the Devs wanted to make a civ that had Arbalests but no bracer
Similar to how Turks don’t get pikes or elite skirms
Spanish don’t get crossbows but full trash
And Teutons don’t get Husbandry
Malians not getting Bracer is part of that identity.
It’s unique.
Oh you can totally justify going for Malian arbs in imp.
They’re a great halb deterrent and if you had 30 crossbows from castle age no reason to not upgrade them.
Just means you’ll have to tech switch.
Rather that then going into imp with say Celtic crossbows.
Not ideal but not terrible I’d say.
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14073Apocalypso-YouTubeGuestI feel like it might be to further distinguish them from the Ethiopians.
It’s kind of like an Aztecs and Mayans situation, where the Aztecs have good infantry but poor archers, and the Mayans are the opposite.
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14072Ok_Shame_5382GuestThis is a troll post right?
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14071IncredulousFoxGuestMalians are in a weird spot because they have a great bonus to support late game gold comps, butttt they dont have any strong, gold efficient, power units.
Farimba cavalier/camels are often outclassed, champs are still not great, and light cav only really have +3 attack over standard light cav (I’d rather have hussar), no halb, no seige engineers, no bracer.
So youre stuck going double gold comp with subpar units.
Better get ahead in castle age.
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14070viiksitimaliGuestIt’s the identity of the civ to be completely mediocre.
If you give Malians bracer, they might be borderline good, which goes against the design philosophy.
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14069Makonnen91GuestMalian clan get in here !
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14067BlockliesGuestMy guess is to be pushed into infantry/cavalry in the late game, also because they have a gold and wood bonus, imagine them with FU arbs
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14066iate13coffeecupsGuestThen they would have FH arbs and pretty good cavalier.
Combined with their extra gold that is pretty wild
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14065Urc0mpGuestReal strong to have a wood and gold bonus with fully upgraded arbs but mostly I think the devs just wanted to push players to infantry and cavalry.
Brings a question to mind, who has the best eco and fully upgraded arbs?
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14064MicrosoftComputerManGuestusername relevant
February 19, 2023 at 5:11 pm #14063Parrotparser7GuestYes.
The idea with the Malians civ is that they get every single tech in castle age, and aren’t limited anywhere, even having unique answers to certain problems, but many of their options show significant cracks in Imperial Age.
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