Talk About Hindustanis, Camels and Hand Cannoneers

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  • #5536

    People say that Hindustanis are overpowered due to two of their most powerful units: camels and hand cannoneers.

    To me, these units seem like mediocre units.

    Camels are good against cavalry, but civilizations with halberdiers do the job better.

    Hand cannoneers are good for backline support and dealing with halberdiers, but archers with ballistics and thumb rings are more effective.

    It is strange that a civilization that requires gold to build counters is considered overpowered.

    Additionally, it seems that Shatagni is only used to outrange Onagers, as there is no other reason to use hand cannoneers at that range.

    #5537
    VelcomeToCinder
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    Sure, halberdiers are great but they are in imperial age.

    In castle age, pikemen are not as good at killing cavalry and you should keep in mind that they are more of cavalry deterrence than cavalry killers.

    Cuz cavalry can just run away and attack different target.

    Camels on the other hand are faster than knights and cavalry archers, making it much easier to force an engagement than with spear units.

    And keep in mind that you can make camels faster than enemy can make knights and other cavalry.

    Camels are just better at negating enemy cavalry advantage than spear units are.

    As for hand cannons well remember that you only need chemistry to get them to 100% efficiency, unlike archers.

    Meaning quicker to switch to them if needed, just one upgrade instead of five.

    Also hand cannoner accuracy isn’t as bad as it once was so having better range than enemy siege and arablesters is good.

    #5538
    Koala_eiO
    Guest

    You outrange arbalesters too.

    #5539
    estDivisionChamps
    Guest

    Hindustani are considered OP because

    1) Second best Eco bonus in the game.

    That’s always useful regardless of map and play style

    2) Camels are a great unit.

    Hindustani Camels shut down, Cav, Cav Archers, and other Camels.

    At the least they force a tech switch into an expensive unit that doesn’t have much offensive power.

    If their opponent adds Pikes they can drop back to Town centers and boom unbothered.

    3) Their primary power units are Ghulam and Cav Archer.

    Both units offer lots of mobility.

    #5540
    jaggerCrue
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    I think they aren’t as good as people on forums make you think.

    If you fall behind with Hindustanis in feudal age lack of knights can bite you in the butt because camels aren’t great for raiding and pushing tc’s

    #5541
    flightlessbirdi
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    Hindustanis would be very strong 1v1 even without those units.

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