Rewrite: Cambodian language known as Khmer.
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March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23573
Anonymous PlayerMemberWhen my friends and I play 4v4 online, which is usually with an ELO ranking between 1200-1400, we tend to perform well. However, the prevalence of ballista elephants being used by players who choose the Khmer civilization is frustrating. It presents the challenge of having to win the game quickly because, if it goes on for too long, there will be a massive wave of 120 ballista elephants that cannot be stopped, despite the various armies we have tried to create. I’m wondering if there is anyone who knows how to effectively counter this strategy or perhaps the Khmer civilization needs a nerf.
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23574
MadwonedGuestThe devs seem to agree with you as they’ve given them a small weakness to the mangonel line now
Personally I don’t think it’s easily countered at all in the current meta and I’m not sure how much of bonus damage they get from onagers in the next update
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23575
_Inevitab1e_GuestRams! Everyone seems to forget rams are a thing. They have bonus damage vs ballista eles and take almost no damage from them. Bonus: fill them with halbs for extra movement speed and pointy bois when the rams go down.
Edit: can use ranged united behind the rams, so long as you outrange them. Examples of this can be FU arbs, longbows, janis, hand cannons, BBCs, monks. I imagine Warwolf trebs also do the work, so I guess Britons could deal with it quite well?
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23576
WJSvKiFQYGuestSiege onagers with bonuses, or scorpions. Mongols with drill onagers will destroy Ballista eles, if you can micro properly. An equal number of scorpions will always beat BEs.
If you want to troll your opponents, get tartar flaming camels. You’ll need to micro a bit, but they’ll wipe out hoardes of ballista eles.
Lastly, if they use ballista eles with no support, use siege elephants or siege rams. 1 siege elephant will kill like 5-10 ballista eles by itself. But these things are pretty weak to melee attacks.
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23577
da_m_n_aoeGuestHalb SO shreds ballista elephant.
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23578
Mjfp87GuestI’ve had good results with Halbs inside rams, plus scorps/few monks.
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23579
X4dowGuestKhmer have very little to deal with siege onagers, monks or cav raids.
U convert 1 ballista and you ah e 100 balistas shooting at the one converted for 5 min
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23580
Soviet_PlaysGuestI’d believe their main counter is mass Halbreds with Monks in there to convert them but usually it would be a stop them before they get to that point
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23581
libcommie69GuestJust make Siege onager. I’ve said this a lot. If you properly micro Onagers, you will OBLITERATE Ballista Elephants with equal recourses. Bombard Cannons and monks are also decent.
March 26, 2023 at 4:12 pm #23582
Urc0mpGuestReally tough to deal with in mass no doubt. What you really don’t want to do is throw waves into them, they specialize in taking tons of value before your units touch them. you want to have overwhelming force built up or you want to wear them down with siege and monks until you can. Easier said than done sometimes. Siege engineers bbc and onagers make it easier. Rams aren’t really an answer but comically do kill them and can tank some fire.
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