Rewrite: Cambodian language known as Khmer.

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    When my friends and I play 4v4 online, which is usually with an ELO ranking between 1200-1400, we tend to perform well.

    However, the prevalence of ballista elephants being used by players who choose the Khmer civilization is frustrating.

    It presents the challenge of having to win the game quickly because, if it goes on for too long, there will be a massive wave of 120 ballista elephants that cannot be stopped, despite the various armies we have tried to create.

    I’m wondering if there is anyone who knows how to effectively counter this strategy or perhaps the Khmer civilization needs a nerf.

    #23574
    Madwoned
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    The devs seem to agree with you as they’ve given them a small weakness to the mangonel line now

    Personally I don’t think it’s easily countered at all in the current meta and I’m not sure how much of bonus damage they get from onagers in the next update

    #23575
    _Inevitab1e_
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    Rams!

    Everyone seems to forget rams are a thing.

    They have bonus damage vs ballista eles and take almost no damage from them.

    Bonus: fill them with halbs for extra movement speed and pointy bois when the rams go down.

    Edit: can use ranged united behind the rams, so long as you outrange them.

    Examples of this can be FU arbs, longbows, janis, hand cannons, BBCs, monks.

    I imagine Warwolf trebs also do the work, so I guess Britons could deal with it quite well?

    #23576
    WJSvKiFQY
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    Siege onagers with bonuses, or scorpions.

    Mongols with drill onagers will destroy Ballista eles, if you can micro properly.

    An equal number of scorpions will always beat BEs.

    If you want to troll your opponents, get tartar flaming camels.

    You’ll need to micro a bit, but they’ll wipe out hoardes of ballista eles.

    Lastly, if they use ballista eles with no support, use siege elephants or siege rams. 1 siege elephant will kill like 5-10 ballista eles by itself.

    But these things are pretty weak to melee attacks.

    #23577
    da_m_n_aoe
    Guest

    Halb SO shreds ballista elephant.

    #23578
    Mjfp87
    Guest

    I’ve had good results with Halbs inside rams, plus scorps/few monks.

    #23579
    X4dow
    Guest

    Khmer have very little to deal with siege onagers, monks or cav raids.

    U convert 1 ballista and you ah e 100 balistas shooting at the one converted for 5 min

    #23580
    Soviet_Plays
    Guest

    I’d believe their main counter is mass Halbreds with Monks in there to convert them but usually it would be a stop them before they get to that point

    #23581
    libcommie69
    Guest

    Just make Siege onager.

    I’ve said this a lot.

    If you properly micro Onagers, you will OBLITERATE Ballista Elephants with equal recourses.

    Bombard Cannons and monks are also decent.

    #23582
    Urc0mp
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    Really tough to deal with in mass no doubt.

    What you really don’t want to do is throw waves into them, they specialize in taking tons of value before your units touch them.

    you want to have overwhelming force built up or you want to wear them down with siege and monks until you can.

    Easier said than done sometimes.

    Siege engineers bbc and onagers make it easier.

    Rams aren’t really an answer but comically do kill them and can tank some fire.

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