Persians Buff: Castles Work Twice as Well

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    Instead of having a double work rate, which was mistakenly mentioned before, what if the staggered rate that TCs and Docks have applied to castles as well?

    This would work to enhance the existing bonus.

    This change could potentially give the Persians a slight buff, making them more viable on various maps.

    It would make Conscription and trebs quicker to make, and give their early Imperial Age a better chance against other civs with better power spikes.

    It would also improve all-in Castle Age strategies such as Kamandaran or War Eles.

    The Persian Castle is already not very strong (missing Bracer), and to balance this, removing Hoardings, Architecture etc.

    might be necessary.

    However, it is unclear how this change would interact with Kasbah.

    #17079
    9Divines
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    Elephants get countered yes but in tg if you can mass them they are unstoppable force

    #17080
    awkwardcartography
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    2x castle work rate is ridiculously good, to the point of being game-breaking.

    games are very, very regularly decided on who can win a castle standoff with trebuchets and building them in half the time would basically autowin that situation for persians if imp timings are even a little similar.

    also, the dock and tcs don’t work 2x as fast?

    they have 2x the hp.

    i’m not sure if i follow your rationale for this bonus in the first place.

    #17081
    Tyrann01
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    I feel this is stepping on the Berbers toes a bit.

    Personally I would buff/change Persians by giving them Steppe Lancers, and then taking the scenario-editor “Sogdian Cataphract” unit, give it 1 range and add it as a 3rd stage to the line.

    Then take Mahouts and divide the speed bonus between the War Elephant, and its elite upgrade.

    Then replace the tech with something else.

    Possibly some sort of Cavalry Archer tech due to Persian history.

    Oh.

    And change their architecture to the Central Asian one.

    #17082
    Blocklies
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    The problem with Persians is that they’re boring, not bad.

    Also if you want to go for an all in elephant crossbows then use malay

    #17083
    Hjoerleif
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    I don’t see a need for this buff at all.

    Kamandaran is already very viable and easy to tech into early and the strongest unit in the game shouldn’t take super short time to create

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