[Anonymous Player]

I’m happy that they weakened the organ gun, as it’s not very interesting and only has one trick up its sleeve in Arena.

Arena gameplay requires memorizing how to handle different situations.

One time, my opponents reached the castle age before me and sent 20 villagers to build a castle near my base, which I couldn’t stop because I was playing as Malay and my population boom was slightly slower.

Even when I made redemption monks from my three monasteries, they couldn’t win against the organ guns.

However, I’ve seen professional players convert them successfully.

I’m not sure what went wrong – I selected each monk and pointed them at each organ gun, but they still got killed before converting.

It feels like an unreliable method.

Someone suggested tower rushing, but that’s not my style.

How can I effectively counter organ gun attacks?

Maybe I should mine stone early and build a counter castle immediately without relying on monks.

[dcdemirarslan]

Open up scouts = profit.

Easy map Control +5 relics.

[contemporaryAmerica]

Everyone always when responding to “how do I stop arena castle drop”: “make scouts”… it’s so dumb… doesn’t work against anyone who knows how to play… few spears and wall the vils it’s over.

Fletching archers plus a spear all you need and xbow plus a tower or two if needed way way better at defense than monks vs gunpowder UU

[zune_hd]

Not sure they’re even getting nerfed

[da_m_n_aoe]

Make a defensive castle, add a second tc behind and go imp.

Malay is one of the best civs to defend against forward castle drop because no other civ can do this approach.

[29Rogans]

dont worry its arena, another 1 trick pony will take their place.

[cbox7]

Organs guns are a pain in the ass yes.

With monks did you have sanctity?

Most pros use control groups for each monk to insta target the organ guns.

If you did have sanctity that’s just bad RNG.

Against Portuguese you also have to be worried about the fast imp follow up with potential feitorias so I typically prefer defensive castle and then maybe either an additional tc or tower to prevent them getting too deep in your base.

With Malay I think the defensive castle is the way and then try to get up to imp faster and treb his castle down

[flightlessbirdi]

Faced organ guns on arena a couple days ago, made a few mangonals vs them and was fine, had castle and up to imp by the time they could have had redemption monks (they didn’t though, they were very all in tried to go imp also but ended up slower).

Redemption monks would probably be better counter to organ than mangonals (my civ didn’t get them) Honestly I have found organs fairly underwhelming thus far.

While for sure a strong unit they feel much weaker to me than many posts on Reddit seem to suggest (and seen/used them maybe 10-15 times since last patch).

[Ohana_1220]

Monks are not that reliable for me in this case, I use mangonels and light cav (already starting production in Feudal for taking map control against organs)

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