Khmer Help Needed.

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    As a new player, do you think the best strategy to counter this civilization is to attack them before they reach the castle age?

    #17464
    AlgaeZestyclose5963
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    No.

    Is the problem ballista elephants specifically.

    The answer is mangonel line.

    Make plenty.

    Guard with spear line.

    #17465
    NotAnotherEmpire
    Guest

    Khmer are considered a legitimate strong choice in competitive.

    The best way to slow them down is feudal aggression.

    Khmer can easily be unbalanced trying for super fast Castle and lack military.

    If they skip barracks, they don’t have spears.

    #17466
    Expensive-Source-491
    Guest

    I’m gonna assume you’re playing on closed maps, because on open maps Khmer are pretty weak.

    fyi, a closed map is a map which by design does not encourage early aggression, whether through walls, water, forest, or other obstacles.

    Black Forest, most water maps, and especially Arena are all examples of closed maps.

    Open maps are maps like arabia, which make it difficult to wall your base and play an economy-only early game.

    On closed maps, you want to fast castle and boom.

    Google it if you don’t understand what that means.

    Because of the Khmer bonus which allows them to age up without needing required buildings, you are not going to get to castle age faster than them with any civ.

    In order for Khmer to make a giant ballista elephant death-ball (which I assume you’re dying to), they need to boom really hard because BE require a lot of resources, upgrades, and time to mass.

    I would suggest you Fast Castle and go aggressive all-in with one Town Center instead of booming.

    Use whatever the power unit of your civ is – knights with franks, archers with mayans, UU with turks or spanish, Cav archer with mongols/tatars/cumans, etc.

    Alternatively, you can build multiple TCs, boom, and get aggressive in late castle age/early imperial age, before his BE are fully upgraded.

    But this is cutting it kind of close and gives him time to start massing BE if you do not manage to finish him off quickly.

    If for some reason you’ve reached a post-imperial age situation and he has already massed a bunch of Fully-upgraded ballista elephants, you should use siege onagers, bombard cannons, and/or halberdiers set to the staggered formation and stuffed into siege rams.

    This depends on your civ and what options you have.

    If your civ has bad infantry then use hussars to throw into the meatgrinder while your Siege onagers and/or bombard cannons do the real damage.

    #17467
    Clear_Astronaut7895
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    A mass of balista elephants is very difficult to stop.

    Someone suggested siege onagers, which is a good suggestion.

    Monks can work too, but maybe not at your skill level.

    Siege rams do bonus damage to balista elephants, maybe you can fill them up with halberdiers.

    Bombard cannons can work, but put something in front of them to tank damage, like rams or trash units.

    OP, keep in mind that most people here are very skilled at this game, and they will mostly give advice from that perspective.

    #17468
    Exe0n
    Guest

    Halb/onager is very strong against khmr.

    Otherwise monks with redemption and block printing, or mass bombard cannons.

    #17469
    Rufus_Forrest
    Guest

    What

    Khmers are pretty generalist civ without power spikes.

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