[Anonymous Player]

3.

Increase the speed of Hussar and CA production for the Cumans.
4.

Remove the unused Unique Tech.

[ponuno]

Why cuman hca should be viable?

Cumans already have kipchaks and decent wr

[Parrotparser7]

Friend, most of the options have to be weighed down by their incredible eco and early siege.

They’re not meant to go to lategame.

They’re meant to stall the game by forcing the opponent to stay in lower ages, then die.

[awkwardcartography]

5-range kipchaks sound just awful, borderline unusable and totally kneecaps one of the cumans’ major strengths for no reason at all.

steppe husbandry is a decent tech for the hussar spam alone and mostly applies to the other two units for flavor, which is fine.

i agree that cuman mercenaries needs some sort of rework or to just be totally scrapped – i’m in favor of making kipchaks trainable at archery ranges but anything other than the current tech would work.

i guess the question is, why is it important that cumans have fully upgraded heavy cav archers?

their lategame is already very strong, in a vacuum – fully upgraded halberdiers, champions with everything except supplies, guilds, siege onager and siege ram, paladin and hussar that move 15% faster.

this isn’t a set of changes that would address any of their current weaknesses, it actively undermines their existing strengths, it wouldn’t make them more fair or fun to play as or against, and it works against their thematic civ identity (as the steppe civ that transitions *away* from cav archers as it becomes more europeanized).

[Aggravating-Skill-26]

A better idea is to replace their UT Cuman Mercenaries (Free Kipchak) for (Cav Archers gold cost replaced by some wood) aka trash Cav Archers

Remove Heavy CA upgrade

[Cultural_Parfait7866]

Don’t you mess with my Kipchaks more so we can make people want to create CA instead

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