If Any Civilization Were to Receive an Extra Troop Upgrade or Unique Unit to Make It Overpowered, What Would It Be?
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February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13360JeanneHemardGuest
Can it be giving folwarks to Burgundians also?
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13361huggablecowGuestGive Mongols Conquistadors in addition to Mangudai.
Now Mongols are crazy deadly all through the game
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13362chouettepologneGuestHeavy Winged Hussar for Poles.
Unlike Cavalier it would be more expensive than generic Paladin but stronger, with trample damage.
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13337SmoothConfection1115GuestGoth Eagle Warriors maybe?
But the true game breaking would be Teutonic Knights, with Goth Infantry discount and spam ability.
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13329awkwardcartographyGuestI humbly submit the Aztec Chakram Thrower with Garland Wars for your consideration.
Just for reference, you go from needing 180 direct hits to kill a paladin to 26, 100% passthrough damage notwithstanding.
And you’re even a little faster with squires.
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13330cloudstrife559Guest1.
Poles Paladin.
2.Magyars Mangudai (assuming Recurve Bow affects them).
3.Tatars Mangudai (easier full upgrade with free upgrades, +1/+1 armour).
4.Turks, Ethiopians or Celts Houfnice.
5.Goths Samurai or Berserks.
6.Probably a lot more.
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13331Exe0nGuestSicilians having cataphracts and Hauberks applying to them.
One unit to rule them all
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13332total_score2GuestLiterally any good eco civ getting conqs or janis or something.
Mongol Kipchaks might be stupid though, fire faster and get bracer.
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13333russianpolarbear32Guest-knight line to indians
-pole paladin
– an eco bonus to spanish or goths
-bbc for chinese
-thumbring fo britons would be super strong but dont know if op
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these ones are in the top of my head
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13334Exe0nGuestPoles getting the final cavalry armor upgrade (paladin too but FU cheap cavalier is arguably better than cheap paladin without it, especially since their hussars also benifit)
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13335SheAllRiledUpGuestAccording to devs, Chinese getting bombard cannon would break the game so I’m going with that
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13336adquenGuestI think many broken unit ideas sound nice on paper, but are actually hard to get to in a 1v1.
Like Bengalis War Elephants (without Mahouts then, even): Super strong, but the unit is still expensive as hell.
Or Torsion Engines Houfnice – you often can’t or barely afford one of those techs, let alone both.
So my take is to focus more on stuff that is already strong and dial it up just a liiiittle more:
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Give **Szlachta Privileges** to **Franks**.
You still need a Castle to get that, but guess who has cheaper castles?
Also, Franks are one of the few civs that can justify going Paladin in a 1v1, and the resulting unit is just busted in terms of cost-effectiveness.
And stronger than a Poles Paladin could be.
2.Give **Chinese** either BBC or even better **Redemption**.
Remove one of their few weaknesses on Arabia, and they might become unbeatable in the hands of pros.
Still difficult for anyone else and weak on maps like Nomad, but hey.
3.Give **Shrivamsha Riders** to **Hindustanis**. ~~They are weaker without the increased bonus damage, but they should still mop archers and~~ it’s just inacceptable for a civ with Hindustani economy to need to build a castle just to hard-counter any archer unit!
I thought about giving them knights instead, but I think riders are stronger against anything but eagles, and the meso matchup seems to be pretty one-sided already.
4.By far the weakest suggestion, but I imagine ahella fun to play (with, not against): Give **Goths** access to the **eagle line**.
Yeah, they are not fully-upgraded and lack a busted tech like El Dorado.
Still, cheaper and faster produced Eagles!
I imagine it will be obnoxious in Castle Age and like my previous suggestion, in most cases removes the annoyance of needing to build a Castle first (and getting a UT to be able to spam them).
I also edit in a late idea: If we stretch the definition of unit a bit (and by that I mean: a lot) and give Franks the Folwark, they would snowball so hard economically, I don’t even think they would need Szlachta Privileges to steamroll everyone.
Who cares if your knights are not cost-effective against their camels, if you simply have so much more res than your opponent?
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13346Amonfire1776GuestGujara Cataphracts
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13338okaycakesGuestDravidian wootz steel hussar or paladin
February 17, 2023 at 7:43 pm #13339Koala_eiOGuestTorsion engines for houfnices.
The perfect choice for your games of Amazon Tunnel and Black Forest.
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