Do You Notice the Archer Decrease in Performance During Your Gameplay?
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I was pondering if you perceive the Archer cost rise to be as drastic as I do. I have essentially transformed my strategy to a more environmentally conscious, defensive approach.
I’m curious to see what Ethiopian players thoughts are.
The arb cost makes them suck so much against cavalier, you gotta go halbs immediately now in imp to survive against cav civs, which almost makes arb not even worth it unless you are already ahead
Still need to nerf archer hitbox to prevent retarded stacking. Archers are the prenerf steppe lancers of fhe game
I feel the attack move nerf more – a bit easier for Knights to clean an xbow ball up. I bet lierreyy feels it more he doesn’t play xbow as much any more
Feel it for both xbow and arb as I usually like to play a low-eco approach for archers. I agree that a nerf of some kind was needed, but I don’t like the implementation the devs chose ie breaking attack-move & increasing the cost. I’d have preferred giving the research time for the archer line upgrades an increase, as they definitely come in too fast compared to cav upgrades, and for a unit you can mass from feudal.
Cost increase and the attack move change have had a huge hit on my elo, since I play pretty much only archers.
I usslly pulled alot of vills away from farms when i clicked castle if i eanted to go for xbow.
Now i really struggle to aford the upgrade right away. Have to get used to let more vills farms.
Drush fc on arabia crossbows is basically dead. You cant affor double bit axe in the build anymore and get ranged upgrades. For regular feudal in castle age, the difference is mostly really felt in early imp.
crossbows have always been a pretty unpopular arena opening compared to scouts, but with the price hike i don’t see them used at all in that regard.
personally i’ve found that i have to wait a good minute or so after grabbing bracer and chemistry before i can get arb in imp, which is painful but not world ending.
Think arb upgrade could use a discount. Nowadays my research priority is often bracer->chemistry->arb. All 3 gives 1 more attack. Bracer gives 1 more range which is most important. Chemistry helps everything and gives BBC. Arb is the most expensive and also gives 5 more HP, but I usually don’t care about HP.
I have no complaint with xbow upgrade cost though. It’s perfect now
Xbow upgrade? Nah
Arb upgrade? Yes absolutely
What was the nerf? (out of the loop)
Yes, but it’s a good thing. Crossbow + bodkin was stupid cheap given how much of a power spike it is, and it’s still a good deal.
Not enough res to get xbow bodkin sometimes. Never enough res to get arb bracer chemistry in imp.
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