Do You Find Any Civilization Dull?

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    Hey everyone!

    Personally, I don’t think the word ‘boring’ should be used to describe any civilization’s gameplay.

    I believe that each civ has its own unique style and characteristics, even if they fall under a broader category like “Cavalry civ” or “Archer civ”.

    However, I’m interested in hearing your thoughts.

    Are there any civilizations that you find unexciting because of their tech tree or bonuses, or because they only have limited strategic options?

    Let me know your opinions!

    #17832
    Salnax
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    I don’t think any civ is truly bland, but a few do have less taste than others.

    * Burmese – They are supposedly a Monk/Infantry civ, but they could just as easily be considered a cavalry or infantry civ.

    The problem is, they’re sort of stretched too thin, so they don’t feel too remarkable at anything.

    Worse Knights than any Knight civ, Infantry is comparable to the Japanese and Aztecs but with only two lines of units to use, other civs have more interesting elephants, etc.

    That being said, the Arambai is cool and the versatility can be interesting.
    * Franks – This is one of the funner civs IMO, but the Franks’ bonuses and Tech Tree basically give them of either doing a Knight rush or Scouts into Knights.

    They don’t even have a decent Scout Cavalry line in the latter parts of the game, just the Knight line.
    * Persians – These guys used to be a prettyboring civ, but I mostly think they’re alright today, between their faster boom, strong cavalry tech tree, trash Xbows, and TC shenanigans.

    They still get listed here for having only two bonuses though.
    * Saracens – Saracens feel bizarre to use unless on a Water map.

    You have perfectly good camel units, but not necessarily the best in the game anymore, and the rest of the tech tree doesn’t feel like it makes up for their tricky Eco bonus and limited military bonus.

    You have to rely on Camels instead of Halberdiers to counter Knights, your archery range is complete but fairly generic, and you can’t even upgrade your Knights.

    Sure, some civs have bad Knights ornone at all, but usually they get a decent compensation like Eagle Warriors or Battle Elephants.

    The Saracens just have generic Hussars and A- tier camels.
    * Slavs – What is there to say?

    Unless you really love Siege Rushes, you’re just playing as a civ that uses generic cavalry fueled by a vanilla farming bonus.

    #17824
    OddEconomist9617
    Guest

    Dravidians

    #17825
    mojito_sangria
    Guest

    Slavs and Sicilians, next question

    #17826
    menerell
    Guest

    Persian.

    Douche.

    I’ve said enough, have a good day.

    #17827
    29Rogans
    Guest

    Any reason to play slavs when i can play teutons?

    #17828
    Unbridledscum
    Guest

    Britons always feel very disappointing to me.

    * Archer civ bonus
    * Archer UT
    * Archer team bonus
    * Archer UU.
    * Faster shepherds lets you reach feudal faster so you can create archers sooner.
    * Cheaper TCs makes it easier to boom and build more archers.

    I just feel like they should get bloodlines.(again?

    Did they have it in AoC?)

    #17829
    SimpatheticNS
    Guest

    Vikings (although I don’t really play water) and celts

    #17830
    _westrem_
    Guest

    Turks

    It’s always quick imp into gunpowder and if that doesnt kill you then spam hussar.

    #17831
    Unhappy-Reporter-246
    Guest

    Sicilians, Slavs, Burmese, Italians, japanese, persians imo

    Although I think it is ok for some civs to be little more bland.

    I prefer them over some quirky civs

    #17822
    JohnCalvinKlein
    Guest

    For me it’s the Spanish, Britons, and Slavs.

    Spanish have too open of a tech tree to feel defined in any specific way.

    Their only redemption is faster converting monks, conqs in castle age, and meme stronk vils.

    Monks are difficult to use; conqs teeter out quickly, and again, vils are meme strat.

    Britons are the opposite, they’re very one-stray (archers), and I personally don’t feel like their archers are that exciting when Mayans, Ethiopians, and Vietnamese bonuses feel stronger (again, IMO).

    Extra range, whoopty-doo, Ethiopians shoot faster, Mayans can make more, and Vietnamese are stronk (especially when you add in Rattan).

    Slavs: it’s a dead horse, I’m not going to beat it.

    I’m not saying that Spanish should be changed, I think they’re in a great place, I just find them boring.

    Britons are the same, I think, I wouldn’t mind seeing them get a slight buff to their knight line, but that might break them.

    They’re in a good spot, I’d just rather play any other archer civ.

    Slavs could use a reworking now that Poles and Bulgars exist though.

    Maybe something like an infantry civ that is all about numbers, like the goths, but unique.

    Slightly different topic, but I think that Vikings should be reworked into either “Danes” or “Norse” and have a regional unit that a bunch of civs that interacted a lot with the Norse/Danes would get, maybe call it a “Viking,” and it has a big, two-handed Dane axe.

    Slavs, Britons, Franks, and Sicilians could all have access to it in the barracks.

    Make it like the condo but instead of a bonus against gunpowder it has a bonus against Knights.

    #17833
    Mastercat12
    Guest

    Tbh I’m not against bland.

    I’m not a fan of the gimmicky civs.

    Like Burgundians with the charge ability, or some of the other newer ones.

    I think Frank’s are not bland as they have many options.

    Strong knights, throwing axeman, bombards , and etc.

    Persians I like as they are “bland” they’re solid..knights, crossbows, and etc.

    And if you got the gold, elephants are fun.

    They have a wide variety of strategies.

    Aoe is about strategies and countering strategies.

    Not having the most unique stuff.

    Every civ should be similar in ways but have enough stuff to make strategies interesting.

    I don’t want StarCraft uniqueness I like the flavor as it is.

    I think the Huns should be as far as uniqueness or teutons.

    Very weak in certain areas and very strong in others.

    That should b far.

    I don’t like gimmicky abilities they feel out of place.

    It’s not SC2 where micro is super important.

    #17834
    Business_March_7936
    Guest

    Meta picks like Franks, Turks, Mongols, Britons, Celts

    I play closed maps from 90% so…

    I don’t enjoy winning a jumping Championship against crippled people on wheelchair. (Basically you, if don’t pick meta on closed maps)

    I enjoy beating the shit out of smurfs and tryhards with garbage civs, trash units only army and wacky strats like using heavy cav + HC and halbs as goths.

    Like you can literally smell, taste and see the panic and despair of enemy.

    And this is the feel of power.

    #17835
    BubblyMango
    Guest

    spanish on any non nomad non FC map.

    Basically before imp or before conquistadors you are just a generic civ without xbows with a minor blacksmith discount.

    #17836
    LadiesAndMentlegen
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    Persians by far for me

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