Create a Winning Strategy for 1vs1 Arabia Games in Spanish

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    Hello everyone, I’m a 1000ish elo player and I’m having difficulty making Spanish work for me on Arabia (which is my favorite civilization).

    I’m having trouble getting past some obstacles, such as their major disadvantage against civilizations with camel units.

    I’m guessing that Halberdiers and Heavy Cavalry could be an option against Berbers, but I’m not sure how to get that set up quickly in a 1v1.

    Additionally, it seems like some civilizations can easily overpower them with their sheer numbers and cost-effectiveness (like Magyars).

    Does anyone have any advice for some unorthodox Spanish strategies to use in unfavorable match-ups?

    #7294
    D4rkR4in_aoe
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    Cav archers are still serviceable for them.

    They also have some of the best monks, especially good in early castle age.

    #7295
    Blocklies
    Guest

    Not a Spanish user but they can go for lots of things, they have an above average tower rush and a fc into conqs can also work because you can out down walls fast, their main problem is that they lack an amazing eco/military bonus in feudal age, aside from faster built towers and defensive walls.

    In the late game you have lots of good options aside from the crossbow line, hc halb is a good deathball (though burgundians out damage their hc).

    The important thing though is to not feel forced into a comp, Spanish have an extremely open tech tree and goldless blacksmith upgrades allows for cheaper tech switching.

    Lastly against camel civs you can just use your fully upgraded halbs or champions to kill them or use your hand cannons to overwhelm the camels with their 0 base armor.

    Just hope you’re not against hindustanis who can counter everything.

    #7296
    contemporaryAmerica
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    A few monks along with a knight army can be lethal to camel civs in early and mid castle age.

    At least it can buy you map control and you can add in mangonel and or a few spears.

    Or get a castle up.

    #7297
    ItsVLS5
    Guest

    Scout skirm (standard play)

    Quick range to counter maa and full wall archer and goldless fletching (max 6 archers coz u get no xbow, this is unorthodox though)

    Or maa towers (semi common)

    Maa archer but after 3 archer go full skirm.

    the archers are to pick off any scouts

    Mbl spear or skirm tower defence into walls (annoying but safe play)

    Tower rush (very easy to counter)

    You can do anything tbh.

    I wouldn’t always go conqs every game.

    People forget Spanish get good knights monks, viable castle siege as well as pikes and elite skirm

    Walling isn’t as bad as you think with Spanish because Hera said that 30% build speed is insane.

    So put your civ bonuses to good use.

    This bonus is slept on but when it comes in clutch it comes in good

    #7298
    JaneDirt02
    Guest

    I dont play Spanish but I thought their scouts into FC was very good.

    They always get their full wall up and Castle drops are unstoppable due to their building bonus.

    just FC and Skip feudal age.

    #7299
    total_score2
    Guest

    I am 16xx and play Spanish exclusively on arabia.

    Your entire OP is wrong.

    Camels do nothing vs Spanish, conqs kill all.

    I don’t know if I have ever made HC as Spanish in my life, and I don’t make knights basically ever unless I’ve just hit castle age and my castle isn’t up yet.

    Magyars are not a difficult matchup for Spanish.

    Gurjaras are impossible because SRs make conqs useless, so you are left with a civ with no eco bonus and no military bonuses of any reasonable quality in castle age.

    Britons are impossible because mangos lose to Briton xbows so you have to go eskirms and die in Imp to their superior eco.

    Cav civs are free wins because conqs are one of the hardest counters to both knights and camels in the game.

    #7300
    ManieManie178
    Guest

    There was a video with a super super aggressive feudal play with Spanish archers, with unstopped archer production from 3 archery ranges and close to none vil production after feudal, from 2k ELO players ; I guess at 1000 ELO, with some practice on the macro behind it, this kind of super all-in play can do the trick ?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs1KW1weXBk

    #7301
    henryaoc
    Guest

    A few options:

    1.

    FC into conqs

    No explanation needed.

    This is still viable at your level.

    2.

    Castle Age all-in

    Camels are only a soft counter to knights in castle age.

    Go 1 tc 3 stables, get your upgrades (take advantage of no gold upgrades for Spanish), win your fights with sheer numbers or better upgrades.

    A few monks/donkeys help a lot too.

    Add more stables/siege to snowball.

    3.

    Meta (3 tc 2 stables)

    Depending on your style and civ matchup, #2 may not be a good option (e.g.

    against scary camel civs like Gurjaras/Hindustanis/Byzantines/Berbers).

    You can go meta 3tc and avoid main fights.

    Your knights can kill vils but their camels can’t kill yours under the protection of tcs.

    Possibilities open up a lot under this scenario so you have to adapt.

    I would recommend this route if you want to become a better player overall.

    #7302
    Apprehensive_Alps_30
    Guest

    Go heavy feudal + castle age pressure, civ doesn’t really matter.

    #7303
    [deleted]
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