as a Name Arabia: Just a Name
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Before the release of Definitive Edition, I used to play a lot of Age of Empires.
I would usually take part in 4v4 matches on Voobly, where everyone would play random.
This was the norm for the majority of the players, with only a few playing Arena or Black Forest games.
When DE came out, I was very excited.
I tried to like the other maps that were available on the ladder, but I soon discovered that water fights and sitting behind walls were not enjoyable.
I enjoy Age of Empires II because of the variety of options that are available, but the non-Arabia maps remove most of these.
In team games, this is even worse, because if only one out of eight players bans Arabia, then the map won’t be chosen.
This has caused me to go from loving the game to playing maps that I don’t enjoy for the majority of the games.
I have seen people on this subreddit comment that those who prefer Arabia are tryhards, which is not true.
Random civilizations have always been the norm, and Arabia is simply the most action-packed and balanced map.
Unfortunately, Definitive Edition has killed the game for me.
I have a similar feeling but for 1v1 Arena.
I mostly stopped playing 1v1s because it was so difficult to find these games through matchmaking, and literally impossible to find them through hosting an unranked lobby (nobody is looking there once you start getting higher in Elo).
Yeah, good times.
Also no one even tried to wall, tbh sometimes it was nearly impossible with old Arabia generation.
Losing 5 vills as flank in feudal age, you pocket goes Briton knights, even better if your pocket is Aztecs, but that was fun as hell for sure
Create a 4v4 Arabia lobby in unranked.
I almost exclusively play 4v4 BF and 4v4 Arabia 1000-1300 lobbies and there are regularly lobbies for higher and lower rated players as well.
The trick is vetting players, aoe2.net, their ranked match elo and actually talking to players.
You’ll still get some noobs and pros that slip in sometimes but plenty of good matches to be had.
Sorry.
Ban Arabia all the time.
Especially team games.
I am tired of going archers or knights every game.
I want other options which is why random nomad is superior (but that just means you never get random pick and Spanish on the enemy team).
Arena team games are also different strats and not only archer knight, you actually see unique units.
I’m with you, I prefer Arabia over all other options.
Have you tried playing smaller games?
It’s the same amount of map bans, but I’ve had pretty good luck getting Arabia games in 2v2s.
It definitely depends on your ELO though.
Honestly, civ picking option and forcing civ picks on your opponents has been my biggest issue with DE.
I don’t anymore want to play aoe2 on weekday evenings because the 1v1 experience has been ruined for me.
Who the fuck wants to play 1v1 nomad with Spanish pickers?
African clearing has same problem…
Even arena has same issue to smaller extend.
I just don’t want to play against better civs most of the time while playing random and even arabia TGs are horrible when everytime you get same fucking pkt and flank civs.
I’d bet you if everyone played arabia TGs with random civs, it would be much more popular than currently.
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But yea guess most of the community is fine with shit pick civ system and rather just complain about maps.
Join a discord, and stack with a team.
Problem solved.
Arabia is one of the most repetitive maps in team games.
On 1v1 its a good map, you have options.
But on team games it’s archers flank and scouts pocket every single game at any decent elo.
It’s just too strong and everything else loses to it.
I hate arabia teamgames, very simply because there is only 1 viable strat, flank archers, pocket scout into knights.
To me that’s as diverse as fatslob only playing 1v1 black forest with a viking mirror match.
I understand the appeal for 1v1 arabia, but for team games, arena and black forest are imo more appealing, and judging from popularity I’m not the only one.
Whats ur elo we maybe can play 2v2 on ladder together ( u get more bans if u que as team.
Im like 1100team elo btw
Why don’t you play unranked (lobby) then?
Also, if you are “ok” with other open/hybrid maps, even playing with premade teams can be good as you have 4 bans then.
Arabia players only eat chicken nuggets
All this argueing with just one solution.
The devs should let us play what we want, for those who want the best strategies and best civs, go to Arabia.
For people like me who wants to play with everything in the game, let us play arena 100% of the time.
If we could have Arabia with random civ obligatory, I would play Arabia all the time.
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