Arabia/Arena Are the Most Popular Maps Among Top Players: Other Maps Lack Popularity (Source: AoERecs)

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    The play data suggests that players at the highest level only have a preference for two maps: Arabia and Arena.

    There are some players who specifically prefer one map or the other, while a smaller group is indifferent and will play whatever map their opponent chooses.

    However, there is a noticeable difference in play rate between the two maps, which can only be explained by players avoiding certain maps.

    If players who prefer Arabia ban Arena and vice versa, there should only be an 11% chance of those players facing each other.

    But because the remaining maps have a very low play rate, it’s likely that many matches get dodged.

    This raises the question of whether players should be forced to play on maps they dislike and whether map variety should matter in a competitive context.

    Ultimately, the focus could be on restricting civ picking instead.

    #21887
    Beneficial-Salt-8273
    Guest

    Random map should not be a thing for team games.

    It makes very little sense.

    1v1.

    Yeah, Random map seems appropriate.

    Elo will be more representative of their actual skill level.

    #21879
    CamiloArturo
    Guest

    Yeah, a month without Arabia/Arena would be lots of fun

    #21880
    Koala_eiO
    Guest

    > This also means that if an extremely unpopular map (such as mediterranian, with a play rate of 0.4%) shows up, there is a 72% chance either player presses alt f4.

    You must normalize your play rates by how often the map is actually in the map pool.

    #21881
    kw1k2345
    Guest

    The easiest solution is to let people play the maps they want to play.

    Matchmaking should be opt-in to the maps you want to play, rather than ban limited maps which you hate while not having the chance to ban all.

    This way all the hybrid, water maps players also will get to play their choices more because they will be matched with people who have similar interest.

    #21882
    Truckengineer
    Guest

    I hate both of those maps.

    #21883
    Umdeuter
    Guest

    Add Land Nomad as a consistent option and see the rate fall to 10%

    #21884
    biaich
    Guest

    Ignore the fact that you want all to match all and allow more bans.

    Of you don’t want to play meditirainian and arabia just don’t.

    No big change to the matching engine and people will enjoy the game more

    #21885
    alisrec
    Guest

    How are you counting top players?

    Are you suggesting they are representative of the player base?

    Are you suggesting their wishes are more important when it comes to the map pool?

    Why focus on them rather than the whole player base basically?

    #21886
    thisiscotty
    Guest

    I think for lols they should ban arena and arabia for a week .

    I think people should adapt to playing other maps rather than the same one over and over

    #21878
    Linkdeles
    Guest

    I support the map pool variety and think that our ranked system should also measure our performance on maps a player doesn’t like or at least isn’t as familiar with.

    Just welcome the beautiful chaos of double landings and hight tides!

    #21888
    PhantasticFor
    Guest

    The worst part is how fringe players can force their favourite map onto the main liners.

    If you ban a map there should be 0% chance of getting it.

    If you favourite a map and then ban your opponent’s fav, the game shouldn’t automatically force your map on the opponent.

    The game clearly caters for different play styles, let the players have more control over what they actually play, instead of these null matches.

    And fix the horrible auto formation line/column changing.

    How many years are we going to carry on with this rot, causing players to think pathing is worse due to some stupid intended mechanic.

    #21889
    Daiirko
    Guest

    Islands is the best map

    #21890
    SylviaDiagram
    Guest

    Honestly.

    I think just get rid if the favorite map.

    Just have the few bans.

    The problem with favorite map is that is honestly even leads to separation of player bases into their favorite map.

    The map voting should prolly be gatekept to people whom have played at least 20 games during the last map pool or something.

    So people whom just one their silly map and then play it once don’t ruin it for people trying to play regularly.

    I think this is good.

    Maybe have Arabia be unbannable?

    Since it is the most balanced map and the true measurement of the essential foundation of the game.

    It would still be only 1/6 games with no favorites and three bans.

    And it is the map with the greatest civ variety so it also can sustain are far greater amount of games before becoming too samy.

    I am not entirely sold on Nomad in 1v1.

    In team games it kicks ass.

    But in 1v1 the randomness of the start can be too much.With more players across teams it tends to even out a lot more.

    I don’t think having one it the map pool should be an auto include for 1v1.

    I think hybrid maps are great and at least one every map pool is great.

    It is easily the best implementation of water into the game and gives a lot of Naval civs bonuses a place.

    Pure water maps…

    less so.

    Islands in particular can become such a Feitoria fest.

    But they are still part of the game.

    I just do think it should be like Baltic, where there is at least bit of land to work with.

    #21891
    emunchkinman
    Guest

    What I’m getting out of this is that we should only have michi and AT

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