[Anonymous Player]

Off the top of my mind, I can recall Turks and Burgundians having great Hand Cannoneers, but are there any other civilizations that can match them?

[person-124]

I’d say the Hindustani’s with the additional range after the Imperial unique tech are arguably some of the best within the game,

[ponuno]

IMO

S:Hindustanis

A:Turk(Fast HC), Burgundian, Bohemian(Castle age)

B:Portuguesse, Italians

C:Spanish(probably B), Turk(Late HC), Bohemian(Imperial age)

D:Gurjaras

F:Other

[Exe0n]

Hands down Hindustanis after unique tech.
+2 range means they outrange arbalests, and the extra 1/1 armor does help.

Some other civs:
Burgondians while having more attack are missing 1/2 armor.

Turks have more hp and free chemistry(and janissary, basically a better version that deals more damage has more range and hp, but is technically worse against infantry than regular hc’s)

Portuguese/italians/gurjaras have cheaper ones

Spanish fire faster (and conqs which is basically an overall better HC with a little less range)

[BigTastyBaconAOE]

IMO:

S: –

A: Portuguese (Arquebus+lower gold cost), Hindustani (more range),

B: Burgundian (more damage), Spanish (faster firing), Turks (chem free, more hp)

B-: Bohemian (available in Castle Age, faster moving)

C: Gurjara (lower food cost)

D: the rest

[kokandevatten]

Its portuguese as strongest, then either burgundians or hindustanis. (burgundians are best vs goths by far)

[Blocklies]

I personally like burgundian hand cannons the most melt cavalry but you’re weaker to skirms but coustilliers kill those.

Hindustani have the most protected hand cannons and just like Britons they can never get hit by skirms because they outrange them.

Those are my top 2, Italians, porto and turks have good hand cannon rushes though.

[TsrLight]

Bohemians.

You can make them in castle age, with 20 you can destroy tcs super fast.

Castle age skirmishers can’t deal easy with them, 9 hc one shot knights and siege.

Bohemians is the only civ you can go hc as main unit, the other good hc civs uses them more like a support vs halbs or uu infantry because there is better units to make at that point

[Apocalypso-YouTube]

Hindustanis, Spanish, Portuguese, and Italians.

Edit: Also Bohemians.

Can’t believe I forgot them.

[andstopher]

After fighting Hindustani Hand Cannons with my own Portuguese Hand Cannons, I think Portuguese are better.

Sure they get shots off before you get in range but most of them miss because no ballistics and crap accuracy at that range.

Enter the first shot of Portuguese guns, they don’t miss.

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