Tips for Defeating a Portuguese Castle Drop When Playing as an Archer Civilization

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    As a beginner player with low ranking, I am seeking advice on how to counter the Portuguese build order, which leads to a speedy early castle and organ guns. I am facing difficulties in generating military units fast enough to prevent the opponent from building the castle. The bare bones eco Portuguese strategy is also making it hard for me to counter, particularly when my civilization is one that usually relies on archers. Any kind of support in tackling this issue would be much appreciated.

    #18294
    dem503
    Guest

    You can start creating archers much sooner than your opponent can get to castle age, let alone walk over and build a castle.

    Push forward in early feudral age and camp their stone and gold.

    #18295
    Maca07166
    Guest

    I’ve found aggression is key in this game, the times I’m not aggressive from the out is the times I lose.

    #18296
    viiksitimali
    Guest

    What map?

    #18297
    Psydator
    Guest

    As others said, just spam archers asap, don’t let them get to castle age unharmed. Most importantly scout the map and challenge every castle drop, which should be possible with a sizable archer group.

    #18298
    AlgaeZestyclose5963
    Guest

    Archers or xbow are great for stopping castles going up. Punish them for going so many vills on stone. Learn how to rush.

    #18299
    Williamshitspear
    Guest

    It sounds dumb, but scouting. I see many people recommend high agression, but at many levels it is hard to get people from getting to castle age with the eco bonuses that Portugese have. What you can do, is keep them from dropping a castle on your face.
    “All” you need to do, is keep your scout active around their base or between your bases, have about 6-8 archers when they get to your base and there should be no way for them to complete the castle. If they complete it, they should have lost 5 vils building it and you should have an eco way superior, so go castle too, make 2-6 knights and kill their eco.

    #18300
    Buckdiggitydawg
    Guest

    Build walls and be ready to shift your eco away from the push, then counter with a raid if you can handle it. They are such low eco that a couple of dead vils puts them behind so much that you can just out-boom them.

    #18301
    Parrotparser7
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    Tower on your side of the castle, beyond its maximum range, then wall to keep them out. Tech up to imperial and prepare your trebuchets. If you’re playing as a civ with both Redemption and Block Printing, you may want to get some monks up with those upgrades during the age-up to deal with the inevitable bombard cannons.

    #18302
    sensuki
    Guest

    Tower rush

    #18303
    Expensive-Source-491
    Guest

    actively scout the front of your base and build outposts around where you know he is going to drop castle – on your forward gold or stone, or just outside your base or town center LOS. Queue up town watch right after feudal. You should only need to build 3-4 outposts. Meanwhile, you should start massing archers as soon as you hit feudal(2 archery ranges) and research fletching. By the time he tries to drop castle, you should have at least 2-3 dozen archers. He wont have the military to defend his castle drop and you can just snipe the builders. You then attack him in his base with your archer/xbow mass.

    This is of course if you don’t want to just get aggressive early. You can use 5-6 archers with fletching to start harassing him in feudal. If you force him off stone or gold, even for a few minutes, and continue to mass your archers, he is fucked.

    #18304
    BiteMyBaconBits
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    There are a lot of things you can do. Recalling behind is a good start. If you’re up against Portuguese, you know their stray off the cuff, so you have an advantage. Get ready with your own castle and place it defensively to stop their push until imp. They have a lot of red forward and can’t do anything with it. Make some seige if you’re desperate and just get up to imp faster with a better eco

    #18305
    nonunionLeakey
    Guest

    its extremely hard and the portugese need to be nerfed

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