Struggling Like Franks

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    I appreciate Franks due to their straightforward nature and the pleasure of aiming to reach the Castle and having Knights. Additionally, it appears that they have a high winning rate, indicating that they are a dependable choice.

    However, my opponent can quickly outstrip my Knights by accumulating a large army of Pikemen, which easily overwhelms my forces. They usually combine this with their unique unit or another fighter, and I am left defeated.

    As a member of the Franks civilization, what is the best way to counter Pikemen during the Castle age?

    #17920
    Boarderdudeman
    Guest

    Hi! It’s definetely tricky to think this is the proper play when you’re newer (or older, games are stressful), but you have speed on your side with knights. Simply never fight the pikeman. Either add TCs at home knowing that his pikes can’t raid while sending a few knights into the back of his base, and/or go to imp for cavalier.

    If you’re feeling real fancy though, throwing axeman from the castle absolutely eat pikeman for breakfast, and they use the same resources (food and gold) as knights do.

    #17921
    RefrigeratorPrize802
    Guest

    In small numbers knights win vs pikes, so if you can engage before a mass then you can beat them with knight flood. To deal with a mass of pikes you can use throwing axemen

    #17922
    JeanneHemard
    Guest

    Make throwing axemen or hand cannoneers.

    #17923
    WastelandMedic93
    Guest

    Scorpions are really good too, people sleep on those. Patrol 2 or 3 and then engage the pikes with knguths from a perpendicular angle to get the most out of them.

    Edit: lol KNIGHTS***

    #17924
    maru_aoe2
    Guest

    Good.. good.. *evil smirk*

    #17925
    Saucesquatchh96
    Guest

    Skirmishers counter pikes. After an early scout rush in feudal I mix elite skirms with knights in castle age. Sacrifice your trash skirms against the pikeman, then send your knights in. I’m also a noob but this works fairly well for me.

    Edit: an

    #17926
    ponuno
    Guest

    Nothing? If you forced opponent to make Full pikes usualy you would be ahead economiacly as Franks. He cant really kill your vills while you still can raid. So imping into cavaliers/pala and Castles usualy is enough. But if you feel your boom is weaker than his, than you should probably make siege to push and castle drop

    #17927
    jeowaypoint
    Guest

    Some xbows, add some siege, or just trade vs low amount of pikes and heal with monks. Use mobility, make his slow pikes chase and spread thinner so you can trade favorably somewhere else etc.

    #17928
    Unbridledscum
    Guest

    1. You don’t need to build knights.
    2. You don’t need to clash armies.

    You want to strike at your opponent’s weak underbelly i.e raids on their villagers.

    Don’t attack the pikes unless it creates a greater setback for your opponent than it will for you.

    In CA, Crossbows, Elite Skirmishers, Cavalry Archers all should be good vs Pikes. Throwing axemen, too.

    If your opponent goes Pikes and you don’t see a way to raid your opponent you could also play defensively and boom and go to imperial age. Maybe.

    #17929
    gothedistancegaming
    Guest

    Bearded axe.

    Or learn to Persian douche. Never let them get to pikes

    #17930
    AoE2_Xbox_Vikings
    Guest

    goths are simple. franks need multiple tcs since cavalry is expenive af

    #17931
    Crime_Dawg
    Guest

    Play your own knights and pikes. If you’re struggling with Franks, you just need to lose more to find your true ELO. Your ELO on Franks = your actual ELO + 100, so accept it as a fact of just playing an OP civ against players better than you.

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